Forgot to mention Chris Birds wildlife haven near Trefenter. Just lots of birds, tawny owls with young again, spotted flycatchers, redstarts, blackcaps, garden warblers, g s woods,greenfinch, goldfinch, and many other common species. Best of all we always eagerly await pied fly, none for a few years but one at last, 5 or 6 pairs used to be regular, but now scarce breeders.