I totally agree with Jerry's remarks about Stock Doves. I find them to be quite regular away from well watched hot spots. I have been studying bird populations in SN65 since 2007. Initially, I found 30 pairs in 13 tetrads but my most recent estimate in 2023 was for there to be 71 pairs in 18 tetrads, being absent only from the highest ground. This correlates well with the BBS index for Wales which has shown a 118% increase in numbers over the same period. Stock Doves are green listed because populations appear to be doing well at present. At work, driving around, I saw a pair yesterday at Dolhaidd Mansion near Henllan bridge and two or three weeks ago a small flock of 14 was present for a few days between Croeslan and Tregroes.